Minutes PGA committee meeting 22/10/23
Commenced : 08:10
Concluded : 09:34
In attendance : Alan Betchley, Paul Majoor, Craig Nixon, Mark Watson, Mike Andrews, Dave Wiseman
Chairman's opening comments, and reports:
The Chairman opened the meeting, referring to the minutes of the previous meeting and asked if there were any comments or matters arising from the minutes. There were no further comments from the committee, other than the secretary stating that there had been no objections put forward when the minutes of the last meeting were circulated.
The captain commented to the chairman that he had had comments from members that they felt that Division 1 should be lowered. The handicap secretary stated that at present there were 24 members in Division 1, 29 in Division 2 and 24 in Division 3. The committee felt unanimously that this was a fair split of divisions, and no action should be taken to change the boundaries.
The chairman had had discussion with what is loosely termed the LIV group ( By which is meant PGA members that are arranging their own tee times for roll up game {independent of PGA}, and only play in the PGA mid monthly) They had expressed a wish to also have a split tee time for the monthly. The committee again felt unanimously that our competitions would not be influenced by any members groups. The arrangements were already complicated enough. Members can play or not, as and when they wish. In the mid-monthly they can express a wish to go out early, but they cannot dictate who they wish to play with or when they wish to play. If they express a desire to play early, if they can be accommodated to play early, then they will be. However if we are oversubscribed for players for the early tees, then is will be down to the draw.
The chairman commented that is possible that some of these members would probably not renew membership of the PGA, and the situation of having split tees for the mid-monthly might end naturally.
The Data Protection act has been passed so we as a committee need to be aware what data we can legitimately keep on member. It was suggested that we have a word with George Harris
Secretaries report:
Reported that there was not a great deal to relate, other than there had been numerous enquiries, and numerous emails with details application forms had been sent out. We had added 4 new members since the last meeting and there were another couple in the pipeline.
The secretary stated that he was not prepared to continue in post after the AGM.
Handicap secretaries report:
See attachment.
Prize money for MEKO already been presented to Craig Nixon. The trophy to been presented at the dinner. The secretary said he would give the runner up prize money to the runner up Costas Pavlou (Less the €10 for entry to this years comp. which had not been paid)
Both the Chairman's & handicap secretary's assessment of player of the year (done independently) were in agreement. This player was Anne Majoor, this recipient was unanimously approved by the committee. Likewise both chairman and handicap secretary agreed on the Most Improved Player was Sharon Watson, again unanimously approved by the committee.
It has been noted that there are still 3 outstanding fees to be paid for this years MEKO competition. Even though it was stipulated that player must pay their entry fee before playing. So it was decided that the stipulation would be repeated this year, but with the additional penalty that if the fee had not been paid, it would result in disqualification. The entry fee can always be left in the pro shop for the organiser to collect at a later date.
Handicap Sec. mentioned all the dates had been fixed to complete comps for this year. Soon it would be time to arrange dates for next year. He asked what was the feeling about booking an event at the new Limassol course if it is open in time. This suggestion was met with uniform approval, although the numbers of members that would play might be limited.
Handicap Sec said he was in possession of the Captain v Vice Captain trophy, he was asked by the chairman to bring it along to the dinner for presentation to Craig as captain of the winning team.
Handicap Sec. said there is still a great discrepancy of members putting in scorecards to maintain a handicap. Making it easy to manipulate a handicap either up or down. So the handicap secretary has had to resort to putting in cards for those members who are playing off an unrepresentative handicap. Members have stated that they have put in cards, but the handicap secretary says this is not the case, as he gets notification when cards are tendered.
See attachment re new regulations and requirement to re-write the constitution in line with CSO proforma.
The handicap secretary was asked if he was happy to represent the PGA on the new CGF committee, to which he agreed. This was approved by the committee.
The handicap sec. stated that we would not be allowed to operate as a club unless we are registered with the CSO. There was no information on how to go about this. The secretary undertook the task of finding out what was involved.
Soc. Secretaries report:
The Social Sec. stated that he had tried hard to generate interest in social events for the association, but his approach to the membership had been met with very little enthusiasm, with just the regualar 10 – 12 members showing any interest. He felt that he was flogging a dead horse. The committee agreed with this kind of response, it was probably not worth having the post of social secretary as all the work put in to arrange the events came to nothing.
The Chairman's Dinner was nearly fully booked, although he had had a late cancellation the day before meaning there were two places available at the dinner.
28 player have opted to play in the Chairman v Capt golf event with 2 reserves.
Treasurer's report:
See attachment.
It was agreed that the PGA would fund the first drink at the Chairman's Diner.
The Fees will be held at the current level, and next years fees are encouraged to be paid before the end of the year.
Capt. Report
MEKO up to Semi-Finals
Nothing to report.
Vice Capt. Report
AOB
Handicap sec. provided sample of a new PGA shirt. They were by no means the best quality but for €5 each without a logo seems a good deal. The committee felt we could afford at this rate we could supply all members with a new shirt. Several different colours were suggested, it was felt by the majority of the committee that Red would be a good option. It was felt that 150 would be a good amount to order.
Trophies for next year will be organised by the chairman. The defunct trophies “Ladies Trophies” “Longest Drive” would not be accepted as a buy back. Other trophies would be accepted as it keeps the costs down.
Apparently there has been a few comments that there should be a “Longest Drive” prize. The committee felt it should be treated like the 2's competition, and be voluntary for those who wish to take part.
The membership cards were discussed. It was noted that in the current format they would be out of date by the time the AGM came around. It was therefore decided that the card would be issued on a once only basis,, and not renewed each year. The rear of the card would be redesigned with email address and website address.
Officers for next year: Vacant positions:
Chairman,
Secretary
Treasurer
Vice Captain
The Chairman expressed on behalf of the committee thanks to Mark Watson for standing in as secretary at short notice.
Again it was felt that with the lack of interest in social events that Social Secretary's position was superfluous. That going forward it would be down to the Captain and Chairman to arrange the two main social functions of the year, with co-opted help for the arrangements.
A few names were put forward and discussions would be had with the individuals to see if they were happy to stand.
The new administration of Elea, look as if they are trying combine Off peak members and Full members more closely, which we felt could only be good for both us and the club. The Social secretary is already due to speak to the manager. I was felt that he would be wearing two hat as both a PGA and Off peak representative. As a committee we have a difficult task trying to separate the business of both, as a large number of PGA members are also Off-peak members. As the PGA has the largest group of Off-peak members at Elea that socialise and discuss the problems with the club. The feeling was it would be in all our interest to have an Off- peak representative that would be just that, but could feed back relevant information to the PGA that affects the off- peak members. As the Social Secretary was already in discussions with the club, it was felt he would be an idea candidate, and he was prepare to assume the role. In this role he would not be a member of the PGA committee but would be co-opted to the committee.
The problem with the WHS handicap, with new members putting in one card to obtain a handicap, which sometimes is unrepresentative of their handicap in their home country. Several different options were put forward, but none was approved as a solution. The best option we could come up with was that if in the handicap secretaries opinion he felt the new member was playing off an unrealistic handicap for a competition, he could restrict the issue of a prize (Unless they had already input 3 qualifying cards) by referring to the letter all new prospective members get, saying they cannot receive a prize until they have entered 3 qualifying cards.
Proposed next committee meeting end of January.
Proposed Date for the AGM will be held after the February monthly PGA competition.

